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12 <H1><A name="lists">Mailing lists and newsgroups</A></H1>
13 <H2><A name="list.fs">Mailing lists about FreeS/WAN</A></H2>
14 <H3><A name="projlist">The project mailing lists</A></H3>
15 The Linux FreeS/WAN project has several email lists for user support,
16 bug reports and software development discussions.
17 <P> We had a single list on clinet.fi for several years (Thanks,
18 folks!), then one list on freeswan.org, but now we've split into
21 <DT><A href="mailto:users-request@lists.freeswan.org?body=subscribe">
25 <LI>The general list for discussing use of the software </LI>
26 <LI>The place for seeking <STRONG>help with problems</STRONG> (but
27 please check the <A href="faq.html">FAQ</A> first). </LI>
28 <LI>Anyone can post. </LI>
31 <DT><A href="mailto:bugs-request@lists.freeswan.org?body=subscribe">bugs</A>
35 <LI>For <STRONG>bug reports</STRONG>. </LI>
36 <LI>If you are not certain what is going on -- could be a bug, a
37 configuration error, a network problem, ... -- please post to the
38 users list instead. </LI>
39 <LI>Anyone can post. </LI>
42 <DT><A href="mailto:design-request@lists.freeswan.org?body=subscribe">
46 <LI><STRONG>Design discussions</STRONG>, for people working on
47 FreeS/WAN development or others with an interest in design and
48 security issues. </LI>
49 <LI>It would be a good idea to read the existing design papers (see
50 this <A href="intro.html#applied">list</A>) before posting. </LI>
51 <LI>Anyone can post. </LI>
54 <DT><A href="mailto:announce-request@lists.freeswan.org?body=subscribe">
58 <LI>A <STRONG>low-traffic</STRONG> list. </LI>
59 <LI><STRONG>Announcements</STRONG> about FreeS/WAN and related
61 <LI>All posts here are also sent to the users list. You need not
62 subscribe to both. </LI>
63 <LI>Only the FreeS/WAN team can post. </LI>
64 <LI>If you have something you feel should go on this list, send it to <VAR>
65 announce-admin@lists.freeswan.org</VAR>. Unless it is obvious, please
66 include a short note explaining why we should post it.</LI>
69 <DT><A href="mailto:briefs-request@lists.freeswan.org?body=subscribe">
73 <LI>A <STRONG>low-traffic</STRONG> list. </LI>
74 <LI><STRONG>Weekly summaries</STRONG> of activity on the users list. </LI>
75 <LI>All posts here are also sent to the users list. You need not
76 subscribe to both. </LI>
77 <LI>Only the FreeS/WAN team can post. </LI>
81 To subscribe to any of these, you can:
83 <LI>just follow the links above </LI>
84 <LI>use our <A href="http://www.freeswan.org/mail.html">web interface</A>
86 <LI>send mail to <VAR>listname</VAR>-request@lists.freeswan.org with a
87 one-line message body "subscribe" </LI>
89 <P> Archives of these lists are available via the <A href="http://www.freeswan.org/mail.html">
90 web interface</A>. </P>
91 <H4><A name="policy.list">List policies</A></H4>
92 <STRONG> US citizens or residents are asked not to post code to the
93 lists, not even one-line bug fixes</STRONG>. The project cannot accept
94 code which might entangle it in US <A href="politics.html#exlaw">export
96 <P> Non-subscribers can post to some of these lists. This is necessary;
97 someone working on a gateway install who encounters a problem may not
98 have access to a subscribed account. </P>
99 <P> Some spam turns up on these lists from time to time. For discussion
100 of why we do not attempt to filter it, see the <A href="FAQ.html#spam">
101 FAQ</A>. Please do not clutter the lists with complaints about this. </P>
102 <H3><A name="archive">Archives of the lists</A></H3>
103 <P> Searchable archives of the old single list have existed for some
104 time. At time of writing, it is not yet clear how they will change for
105 the new multi-list structure.</P>
107 <LI><A href="http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/linux-ipsec">Canada</A></LI>
108 <LI><A href="http://www.nexial.com">Holland</A></LI>
110 <P> Note that these use different search engines. Try both.</P>
111 <P> Archives of the new lists are available via the <A href="http://www.freeswan.org/mail.html">
112 web interface</A>. </P>
113 <H2><A name="indexes">Indexes of mailing lists</A></H2>
114 <P><A href="http://paml.net/"> PAML</A> is the standard reference for <STRONG>
115 P</STRONG>ublicly <STRONG>A</STRONG>ccessible <STRONG>M</STRONG>ailing <STRONG>
116 L</STRONG>ists. When we last checked, it had over 7500 lists on an
117 amazing variety of topics. It also has FAQ information and a search
119 <P> There is an index of <A href="http://oslab.snu.ac.kr/~djshin/linux/mail-list/index.shtml">
120 Linux mailing lists</A> available.</P>
121 <P> A list of <A href="http://xforce.iss.net/maillists/otherlists.php">
122 computer security mailing lists</A>, with descriptions.</P>
123 <H2><A name="otherlists">Lists for related software and topics</A></H2>
124 <P> Most links in this section point to subscription addresses for the
125 various lists. Send the one-line message "subscribe <VAR>list_name</VAR>
126 " to subscribe to any of them.</P>
127 <H3><A name="linux.lists">Linux mailing lists</A></H3>
129 <LI><A href="mailto:majordomo@vger.kernel.org">
130 linux-admin@vger.kernel.org</A>, for Linux system administrators</LI>
131 <LI><A href="mailto:majordomo@rustcorp.com">ipchains@rustcorp.com</A>,
132 about the IPchains firewall tool</LI>
133 <LI><A href="mailto:majordomo@samba.anu.edu.au">
134 netfilter@samba.anu.edu.au</A>, about Netfilter, which replaces
135 IPchains in kernels 2.3.15 and later</LI>
136 <LI><A href="mailto:securedistros-request@humbolt.geo.uu.nl">
137 securedistros@humbolt.geo.uu.nl</A>, for discussion of issues common
138 to all the half dozen projects working on secure Linux distributions.
139 Each project also has its own mailing list.
141 <LI><A href="bastille-linux-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net">Bastille
142 Linux</A> scripts to harden Redhat, e.g. by changing permissions and
143 modifying inialisation scripts</LI>
144 <LI><A href="http://immunix.org/">Immunix</A> take a different
145 approach, using a modified compiler to build kernel and utilities
146 with better resistance to various types of overflow and exploit</LI>
149 <LI><A href="mailto:security-audit-request@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk">
150 security-audit@ferret.lmh.ox.ac.uk</A>, for people working on security
151 audits of various Linux programs</LI>
152 <LI>the <A href="glossary.html#NSA">NSA</A> have contractors working on
153 a Security Enhanced Linux, primaily adding stronger access control
154 mechanisms. You can download the current version (which interestingly
155 is under GPL and not export resrtricted) or subscribe to the mailing
156 list from the <A href="http://www.nsa.gov/selinux">project web page</A>
159 <H3><A name="ietf">Lists for IETF working groups</A></H3>
160 <P>Each <A href="glossary.html#IETF">IETF</A> working group has an
161 associated mailing list where much of the work takes place.</P>
163 <LI><A href="mailto:majordomo@lists.tislabs.com">ipsec@lists.tislabs.com</A>
164 , the IPSEC <A href="http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ipsec-charter.html">
165 working group</A>. This is where the protocols are discussed, new
166 drafts announced, and so on. By now, the IPSEC working group is
167 winding down since the work is essentially complete. A <A href="http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ipsec/">
168 list archive</A> is available.</LI>
169 <LI><A href="mailto:ipsec-policy-request@vpnc.org">IPSEC policy</A>
170 list, and its <A href="http://www.vpnc.org/ipsec-policy/">archive</A></LI>
171 <LI><A href="mailto:ietf-ipsra-request@vpnc.org">IP secure remote
172 access</A> list, and its <A href="http://www.vpnc.org/ietf-ipsra/mail-archive/">
175 <H3><A name="other">Other mailing lists</A></H3>
177 <LI><A href="mailto:ipc-announce-request@privacy.org">
178 ipc-announce@privacy.org</A> a low-traffic list with announcements of
179 developments in privacy, encryption and online civil rights</LI>
180 <LI>a VPN mailing list's <A href="http://kubarb.phsx.ukans.edu/~tbird/vpn.html">
183 <H2><A name="newsgroups">Usenet newsgroups</A></H2>
186 <LI>sci.crypt.research</LI>
187 <LI>comp.dcom.vpn</LI>
188 <LI>talk.politics.crypto</LI>
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